Kauwila Kaylene Sheldon Amelia Gora I know that! You think i dont know about your research? About your dedication and hard work? I see you at the archives working passionately-maybe too passionately. Aliʻi bashing
🤔Do you know my moʻokūʻauhau? Robert & you are not the only Royals or Ali'i! I met you several times Amelia. You did research on my kupuna, you came up to me with a very positive attitude! You shared with me the articles about John Sheldon. My point to you was this, since you have So much valuable research...Why put Robert Wilcox-Owana on blast? Im just wondering if its personal. What do they own that could oppress you? Owana has nothing. Thats my point? Who stole the 1.8 billion acres of land? Every aliʻi had a card to play in the turning of the overthrow. Some left the Kingdom vulnerable (gambling, partying) of course the had western influence/heavy assimulation-Iʻve even had run ins with Kaulana as well but also forgave her. I applaud you for finding out about the lynching & hanging and Iʻm sure those UH professors wanted a piece of your research. Its the way you use research that makes it even more valuable but could also hurt relationships if it is not further explored. You think nobody tried to use my research and tried to claim it as theirs? You think the University never tried to use my research to get them grants??? Be makaʻala too by what these professors tell you as well cause some of them want something. But yes I am well familiar that you are well-versed in your research, I have a challenging time understanding the intention and lack of analysis and breadth of researching Hawaiian language newspapers & critical analysis.
Manage🤔Do you know my moʻokūʻauhau? Robert & you are not the only Royals or Ali'i! I met you several times Amelia. You did research on my kupuna, you came up to me with a very positive attitude! You shared with me the articles about John Sheldon. My point to you was this, since you have So much valuable research...Why put Robert Wilcox-Owana on blast? Im just wondering if its personal. What do they own that could oppress you? Owana has nothing. Thats my point? Who stole the 1.8 billion acres of land? Every aliʻi had a card to play in the turning of the overthrow. Some left the Kingdom vulnerable (gambling, partying) of course the had western influence/heavy assimulation-Iʻve even had run ins with Kaulana as well but also forgave her. I applaud you for finding out about the lynching & hanging and Iʻm sure those UH professors wanted a piece of your research. Its the way you use research that makes it even more valuable but could also hurt relationships if it is not further explored. You think nobody tried to use my research and tried to claim it as theirs? You think the University never tried to use my research to get them grants??? Be makaʻala too by what these professors tell you as well cause some of them want something. But yes I am well familiar that you are well-versed in your research, I have a challenging time understanding the intention and lack of analysis and breadth of researching Hawaiian language newspapers & critical analysis.
Elizabeth Keka'aniauokalani Moreno Amelia Gora you’re a crazy person and wouldn’t trust one thing you said. To make claims that I would be related to Celso Moreno. Moreno is my maiden name dummy and I doubt that would make me related to every Moreno in the world. You’re definitely clinically diagnosed with some kind of mental illness that you should either seek treatment for or get back on those meds.
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Elizabeth Keka'aniauokalani Moreno The Ali’i bashing definitely needs to stop. We will go nowhere and will not move forward towards a Kingdom or Nation if all that is being done is bringing each other down. As descendants of Ali’i we should begin to act as such by working together and stop wasting resources and efforts on bashing our fellow Ali’i. My family has always tried to regain the Kingdom. We know who we are and that we have the best claim to the throne but we also know we can not do this without the support of those families like all of you in this group. I’m no different than anyone else and neither is my mother’s cousin, Owana. We all work hard and take care of our family’s. My family doesn’t claim to be something that we are not, we don’t have to. We did not choose to be born of this particular family but we were and we would greatly appreciate being shown the respect and support for our position as we would do the same for you. Many want the Kingdom back but fail to acknowledge my family is still here. When it is realized, we are met with hate and jealousy. This is our familial responsibility - to take care of our people. We are just trying to keep our ancestors rights and claims alive. No different than yourselves. We need to organize our Ali’i and stand with my cousin Owana.
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Amelia Gora Nani Ome Emma was adopted by TCB Rooke who was married to Grace Kamaikui her aunty... meanwhile Grace Kamaikui was the mother of Hueu Davis, Kale Davis and Peke Davis. Emma received only a life interest from Grace Kamaikui who died AFTER TCB Rooke. Emma apparently had an affair with TCB Rooke's friend's relative and he was shot by Kamehameha IV - Alexander Liholiho. That person was from England.....now, enter a case in the year 1900 and TCB Rooke's nephew is awarded Emma's lands, including the hospital it seems....research ugly and incomplete.....point is there are many defrauded descendants/heirs of Keliimaikai including our families.
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Amelia Gora Kauwila Kaylene Sheldon the UH Prof in Archaeology took some of my research as his own...he also gave me an A+ for my papers on the Comparative Studies of the Hawaiian and Tahitian Culture... it was an intense paper comparing House sites, kite flying, etc. He ended up claiming that he "lost" my papers....hmmm.... appears that the Profs use their students ideas for their own writings...hmmm
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Healani Sonoda-Pale The Kalakaua's came from Kamehamehas Kona Uncles they were Keoua and Kekuiapoiwas cousins. Hānai was beautiful but doesn't mean you have the blood and mooku'auhau to inherit. Bloodlines not Hānai lines is what mattered. Hānai relationships were many times political were done to build political alliances.
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Donald Batino Kaulia Pololei. We all have much work to do and research. You are all important, just remember our ancestors are with us.
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Ekolu Kalama Kam III made all Kanaka Maoli king/queen of their own LCA...no one is more royal or less royal...only Allodial and Fee Simple less than Allodial. We should stick to the basics. Desiring more implies greed and the Kingdom of heaven is not filled with earthly riches. Whomever can manifest true mana will be the ruler if you require ruling. Sovereigns have no superior nor do Allodial Title holders. Jesus, king of kings and Liliuokalani, queen of queens shall hold the throne of the Kingdom of Hawaii in perpetuity. Now where are the heirs of the 252 chiefs in the Mahele that form our true government, the only ones to put up any valuable consideration???
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Amelia Gora lol ,you have a lot of research to do,,,,,, toodles gotta go ,,,, Our true trustees meeting today for Queen Liliuokalani's Trust... 
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Robert Ebanez https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_Historical_Society
The Hawaiian Historical Society, established in 1892, is a private non-profit organized by a group of prominent citizens dedicated to preserving historical materials, presenting public lectures, and publishing scholarly research on Hawaiian history. The first president was Charles Reed Bishop, who f...
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Debra Kekaualua Robert Ebanez just like everything else boo, but NEVER rely on anything but your own due diligence REsearch!!! all of it, especially that which comes out the archives, TRUTH AND INTEGRITY is what we strive to project and PROduce
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Kauwila Kaylene Sheldon Lā K. Ea I agree, Hawaiian language newspapers & the Hawaiian Historical Society has many HL newspapers as well not ALL written by Haoles!
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Kauwila Kaylene Sheldon NOT everything there are written by HAOLES, there were & are Hawaiian language newspapers written by Nā kanaka 'Ōiwi kept there.
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Robert Ebanez Charles Bishop then Sanford Dole were the President of the Hawaiian Historical Society. There agenda was not for the Kingdom. You would trust these Haoles to teach you your Hawaiian History? Not every thing that came out of the Hawaiian newspaper was 100 % true. There were some geneoligies that were not accurate.
Amelia Gora lots of defrauded tutu...for example: Mataio Kekuanaoa was married 5x - 1) Kalehua/Kauhi 2) Pauahi 3) Kinau 4) Kalolo/Kaloloahilani and 5) Kalima ---- in probate only the haoles are documented ---think the case(s) were tampered...am one of the descendants of Kalehua/ Kauhi through son Paalua/Palua and from Kalima ... references: Samuel Kamakau RULING CHIEFS and Libers 19 page 12 and 19 page 175 ....mind you the deed was to CH Judd and witnessed by AF Judd/Albert Francis Judd and when Kekuanaoa died in 1868 the haole said his last wife was Kinau! the point is that Victoria Kamamalu, Kamehameha IV, Kamehameha V, Paalua, Moses Kaikioewa, David Kamehameha, and hanai: Bernice Pauahi Bishop had stepsiblings named John Kapena, Sam Kapena, and Umiokalani (w) et. als.....lots of criminal activities found....conspiracies set up by the usurpers Charles Reed Bishop, JP Morgan banker, early american spy married Bernice Pauahi Bishop .....then you have supporters like SB Dole who posted an article showing that the 'last of the Kamehameha's had died' - article written in 1872 ....so the agenda was to defraud true heirs, then put it in writing to indoctrinate the masses, the associations with others to break down our Monarchy turned Constitutional Monarchy government was part of the concerted effort used against our people. References: Bureau of Conveyances, Archives, Law books, Libraries, aged books.....wicked. thinking the wicked are in hell... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf-IS08VFfU
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Amelia Gora Kauwila Kaylene Sheldon are you one of the descendants of Sheldon who put out the Hawaiian newspaper Holomua? anywayz, he was arrested for printing the near accurate story of the dethronement of Queen Liliuokalani... see HABEAS CORPUS case at the archives ,...in that case, the usurpers were discussing how the Provisional govt was only a temporary status and they had a limited time to use it so they moved to change to the Republic ,... recently i looked at the case and there are missing docs/ discussions ... a whistleblower revealed that the archivist is destroying docs and digitalizing docs...in other words a genocide activist see:http://maoliworld.com/.../legal-notice-no-2017-0830...
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Kika Lomi Waialae Lots of very interesting manao here. However if one researches the creation of governments one will realize that like currency, it was created for the enslavement of people. So while everyone is focusing on becoming or maintaining being a citizen or subject of a government, why not focus on becoming a sovereign individual under gods/creators laws? People sometimes touches on the true ruler of this earth. A sovereign individual has an option to be governed under any government should they desire to be.
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Deldrene Herron Fascinated with bloggers who follow past events.
Let's GO forward to restoring lands given by our benevolent Monarch to his people. Let us get back our government's treasures from America. Let's decide if we want a republic, constitutional monarchy or the status quo.
The traitors are all dead. Their spon have no power over us. Our greatness is measured in our Aloha for one another. Our power is in defying what is not righteous for our Aina. Know your true self and Malama Na 'Aina.
ManageLet's GO forward to restoring lands given by our benevolent Monarch to his people. Let us get back our government's treasures from America. Let's decide if we want a republic, constitutional monarchy or the status quo.
The traitors are all dead. Their spon have no power over us. Our greatness is measured in our Aloha for one another. Our power is in defying what is not righteous for our Aina. Know your true self and Malama Na 'Aina.
Ekolu Kalama Kauwila Kaylene Sheldon UH is part of the problem, not a part of the solution. Maka'ala is right!
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Robert Ebanez Kauwila Kaylene Sheldon , we should know who those professors are that wants Fed Wreck. I met several Missionary families as Professors of the UH system. They are trust babies living off our wealth. Iʻm sure they will never allow Independence.
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Kauwila Kaylene Sheldon Robert Ebanez K lets work together on Standing up against the BLNR, they are a disease, infectious...ughhhh
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Alexander Kalauokalani Pe'a Robert Kalamai but this article represents the perspective of English historians in Hawaii who only represented 6% of our population. Many of Americans that wrote this falsified history we're Robert Wilcox's enemies. Should we as Kanaka believe Robert Wilcox's enemies? I sure don't.
Fact of the matter is Kanaka Maoli held him in great regard at the time. He was a Loyalist who eventually lead a rebellion where people died to restore the monarchy. His rebellion sentenced him to hang until he was dead by the Republic.
A death sentence which the republic used against our Queen to force her abdocation. If our Queen was willing to give up her throne so this man didn't die unjustly... Then he must've been a national hero. There are 100s of mele about him.
I wonder if how legit this Royal hawk is since they only used racist perspectives of our history. Aka... English foreign language news papers and English sources.
That's like an Italian going in the US archives saying I want all the history on America... In Italian... and using that to draft the official history of the United States.
Hawaiians had 100+ running newspapers. Nothing you have shared has come from those sources of 90% of the population. Aka the Hawaiian perspectives.
What saddens me even more is you and others seem to believe this false narrative.
Ask your na'au if what I shared is more truthful than this article. It won't stear you wrong. Mahalo and Aloha Palala.
ManageFact of the matter is Kanaka Maoli held him in great regard at the time. He was a Loyalist who eventually lead a rebellion where people died to restore the monarchy. His rebellion sentenced him to hang until he was dead by the Republic.
A death sentence which the republic used against our Queen to force her abdocation. If our Queen was willing to give up her throne so this man didn't die unjustly... Then he must've been a national hero. There are 100s of mele about him.
I wonder if how legit this Royal hawk is since they only used racist perspectives of our history. Aka... English foreign language news papers and English sources.
That's like an Italian going in the US archives saying I want all the history on America... In Italian... and using that to draft the official history of the United States.
Hawaiians had 100+ running newspapers. Nothing you have shared has come from those sources of 90% of the population. Aka the Hawaiian perspectives.
What saddens me even more is you and others seem to believe this false narrative.
Ask your na'au if what I shared is more truthful than this article. It won't stear you wrong. Mahalo and Aloha Palala.
Robert Ebanez The Republic let him go and continue on his journey because he was a Patriot of the Kingdom? We will continue to find answers.
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Alexander Kalauokalani Pe'a I thought I sent you a presentation on this from Ron Williams. What did you think? We're you able to read it?
https://www.academia.edu/.../_Ike_M%C5%8Dakaaka._Seeing_a...
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Amelia Gora Ron Williams is a pushy haole who moved to defend Sonny Paalua..... both tried to get me to validate his genealogy connection to Paalua the oldest son of Mataio Kekuanaoa..... heard Ron Williams moved to the mainland.....just questioned his drive, motivation to support Sonny Paalua who also allowed him to live on one of the Alii properties....think they weren't successful....but the research on Paalua shows that he was the oldest son of Mataio Kekuanaoa and his first wife Kalehua/Kauhi ...none of their kids used the Paalua /Palua name...they had five (5) children and seven (7) hanai/ adopted children. Kekuanaoa married Pauahi, Kinau, Kalolo/Kaloloahilani, and Kalima ... ...so, couldn't help them with that.... some of the info that he posted was questionable.
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Amelia Gora on the Big Island, he was allowed to stay in a house claimed by Sonny Paalua...we happened upon that house when we went to view some properties there. It was a chance meeting because i had seen him only at the Bureau of Conveyances previously.
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Alexander Kalauokalani Pe'a Everyone needs to read this if you really want a better perspective on Robert Wilcox.
https://www.academia.edu/.../_Ike_M%C5%8Dakaaka._Seeing_a...
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John Martin I just finished reading the article and find it to be an absolutely necessary introduction to how the power of media (newspapers dedicated to the "foreign" community's perspective) has colonized the minds of generations of Hawaii's people. It's well past time to dig into the Hawaiian language sources and show the true nature of the people rather than the one foisted upon them by the occupying forces. Still, while I find the interest in reevaluating history to be a crucial task, it is incumbent upon all who truly seek justice to find ways to bring together all the disparate views and voices to speak to moving forward with the serious goal of restoring the nation's independence!!!
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Alexander Kalauokalani Pe'a Mahalo for your Mana'o John! I feel so strongly that we are careful with hidden agendas. Those who wrote the History of Hawai'i in English largly had hidden agendas. They would benefit from the destruction of our language because it would make it hard to research our history based on native sources. Ron Williams used sources in Hawaiian and translated them finding that Robert Wilcox was seen by the Hawaiian Nationals as a hero. What a different perspective we get from his enemies here. Which makes sense.
I don't believe Hawai'i needs it's independece restored. I think there is no proof it ever left. What we need restored is our history in the minds of our people and the understanding of the tremendous sacrifice these men gave for their love of country. Robert was willing to die for his Queen. Even as a Loyalist. In the end he fought to restore our government.
I really don't mind people disagreeing with me... But when I share articles transalted in Hawaiian you are not disagreeing with me but your own Kupuna who were there. Who wrote hundreds of mele about the heroic nature of Robert Wilcox.
I think it's very timely that articles would come out to shame him during a time like this. This article is from the Royal Hawk... Well call me the Royal Pue'o. I have to guard my people from allowing the defimation of our own. Especially Po'e Aloha 'Āina. The real battle is the political warfare against our people.
To be frank this article wreaks of political warfare against Hawaiians and our stolen nation. Not on my watch. Not now not ever.
Some people think all Hawaii coming together is what makes Hawaii free and soveign. I don't. In our Kingdom differences of opinion we're needed. When I share facts based in truth from primary source documents and people still turn their nose up... That's when I realize how dangerous people can become. Rather than admit they are wrong they will champion a false narrative. I hate fighting my own people. But when you see me fighting here... Know I'm not trying to fight against my people but for them. I cannot lose anyone to this racist narrative written by Haole's trying to steal our lands.
Sorry I love people on here too much to let this slide. A real friend tells you when you get Hanna badda. This article is full of slime.
ManageI don't believe Hawai'i needs it's independece restored. I think there is no proof it ever left. What we need restored is our history in the minds of our people and the understanding of the tremendous sacrifice these men gave for their love of country. Robert was willing to die for his Queen. Even as a Loyalist. In the end he fought to restore our government.
I really don't mind people disagreeing with me... But when I share articles transalted in Hawaiian you are not disagreeing with me but your own Kupuna who were there. Who wrote hundreds of mele about the heroic nature of Robert Wilcox.
I think it's very timely that articles would come out to shame him during a time like this. This article is from the Royal Hawk... Well call me the Royal Pue'o. I have to guard my people from allowing the defimation of our own. Especially Po'e Aloha 'Āina. The real battle is the political warfare against our people.
To be frank this article wreaks of political warfare against Hawaiians and our stolen nation. Not on my watch. Not now not ever.
Some people think all Hawaii coming together is what makes Hawaii free and soveign. I don't. In our Kingdom differences of opinion we're needed. When I share facts based in truth from primary source documents and people still turn their nose up... That's when I realize how dangerous people can become. Rather than admit they are wrong they will champion a false narrative. I hate fighting my own people. But when you see me fighting here... Know I'm not trying to fight against my people but for them. I cannot lose anyone to this racist narrative written by Haole's trying to steal our lands.
Sorry I love people on here too much to let this slide. A real friend tells you when you get Hanna badda. This article is full of slime.
Amelia Gorahttps://i.pinimg.com/.../b82c5837fab6f6b3b037748602aead88... the IOLANI - the Royal Hawk news on the web has 674 issues or 10 years + educating people around the world, readership fluctuates from Americans topping those reading and the Russians vying with Americans at times... i can see that you're a 'Royal blind puio' or a Wilcox etc. lol
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Kauwila Kaylene Sheldon K guys lets kako'o Kaho'okahi, Andre and Kaleikoa
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Another thread:on Facebook, discussion still on Robert Wilcox and his descendant Elizabeth K. Moreno :
RE-EDIT: I re-edit this post! I tired fight
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😭😭😭😭but I am addicted to debating and i want to debate with the Fake State. Let us stand together against BLNR in their recent illegal arrest against Kaeo, Kanuha & Perez! Hewa loa e Sam GON!!!!
😓😓😓😓😭😭😭😭but I am addicted to debating and i want to debate with the Fake State. Let us stand together against BLNR in their recent illegal arrest against Kaeo, Kanuha & Perez! Hewa loa e Sam GON!!!!
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