Saturday, January 11, 2020

Queen Liliuokalani, Osama Bin Ladin, and Nostrodamua articles: Eerie Similarities of Queen Liliuokalani and Osama Bin Ladin

                             Eerie Similarities of Queen Liliuokalani and Osama Bin Ladin

                                               or Wrongful Treatments of Deceased Persons


                                                                Observations by Amelia Gora (2017)


The following is part of a previously posted article parts of which shows the handling of Queen Liliuokalani's remains in 1917, then Osama Bin Ladin's remains by massacre then buried out at sea.



The Fraud Trustees of Queen Liliuokalani allowed the Territory, a conjured up illegal government which was developed by the Army, Navy, and Federal officials who were under the direction of U.S. President William McKinley who did proclaim Hawaii to be the Territory of the U.S.

The U.S. government obtained and buried his remains right away.




IS NOSTRODAMUS CORRECT? (a repost)
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Nostrodamus:
KEEPING THE VATICAN, U.S. etals in check through SPIRITUAL
SOURCES: MAKAULA/ SEERS, PROPHETS, AND MIRACLE WITNESSES

By Amelia Kuulei Gora (2003)

In 1,650+ years old Hawaii, the belief that some persons are born with special gifts continues. The particular gift being referred to is the makaula/ the seers/ those who inform about prophesies.

Kamehameha (1758-1819) a Royal Person of Hawaii was one. His prophesied harm to the Hawaiian/kanaka maoli if the Hawaiian Religion which included the kapu system/taboo and instructed his advisors to set the kapu system/taboo aside. Queen Liliuokalani (1838-1917) a Sovereign (not a Kamehameha descendant) due to her documented prophesy based on the Bible referring to Americans in Hawaii and the eventual downfall of the United States if corrections weren't made.

Then there was a Frenchman named NOSTRODAMUS, his real name being Michel de Nostredame, medical worker who became well known for his prophecies.

NOSTRODAMUS stated that "Liberty shall not be recovered, a black, fierce, villainous, evil man shall occupy it, when the ties of his alliance are wrought. Venice shall be vexed by Hister."

"Beasts wild with hunger will cross the rivers, the greater part of the battlefield will be against Hister. He will drag the leader in a cage of iron, when the child of Germany observes no law."
Finally, the Miracle Witnesses were three Portuguese children of Fatima. They were Jacinta Marto, Francisco Marto (siblings), and their cousin Lucia dos Santos. They
Witnessed Our Lady of Fatima, a Miracle sighting documented by the Roman Catholic Church and others.

The following is a Chronological History with the Makaula/Seers, Prophets, and Witnesses of Miracles accounts:

1452 – "Pope Nicholas the V, gave permission to King Alfonso of Portugal to capture, vanquish and subdue, all Saracens, Pagans and other enemies of Christ, to take all their possessions and property, and to put them to perpetual slavery."

1493 – "Pope Alexander the 2nd, one of the most corrupt Popes in Catholic history, declared that the Christian religion would dominate the world and all non-Christians would be subjugated to Christian law or be punished.

"Pope Alexander the 2nd decree stands as the foundation of western international law and western constitutional law till today."

"Four Papal Bulls were issued by the Vatican Hierarch…which legally sanctioned Columbus Genocide Campaign against Indigenous peoples of the Americas". The Bull "interCaetera" of May 3rd 1493 state, "the Catholic Faith and the Christian religion particularly in our times, shall be exalted and everywhere simplified and spread, (and) that the SALVATION OF SOULS MAY BE PROVIDED FOR AND BARBAROUS NATIONS SUBJUGATED AND BROUGHT TO THE VERY TRUE FAITH."

1503 - NOSTRODAMUS, French medical worker named Michel de Nostredame was a noted seer.

1546-47 – NOSTRODAMUS began his seer abilities after helping many patients with the plague.

1550 – NOSTRODAMUS published the first of 10 collections of prophesies. A total of nearly 1,000 under the title of CENTURIES was printed.

1552 – Las Casas, "The colonial Spanish affirmed this arrogance claiming "the bulls gave them the right to use just WR to convert local populations who had refused to immediately accept Christianity."

1566 – NOSTRODAMUS died in Salon, France.

1569 – A world map was documented by Flemish born (German?) Gerhard Kremer/ Gerhardus Mercator.

1819 – Kamehameha, Royal Person of Hawaii died leaving descendants.

1875 – FRAUD claims by the United States over PEARL HARBOR….conspiracies documented.

1878 – Pacific Cable Company formed by bankers, sugar planters – the same group who moved over to large tracts of Mexican lands called Texas.

1893 – Wrongful dethronement of Prophesy documented Queen Liliuokalani. She maintained the United States BREACHED the Law of Nations and prophesied the demise of the United States.

1917 – Queen Liliuokalani died.

U.S. Warmonger President Roosevelt etals began the League of Nations (which dissipated, the CFR formed (members: Bankers, Great Britain and the United States) to plan the ONE WORLD ORDER organization called the United Nations.

The children of Fatima witnessed Miracles and were given letters with secrets:
1) First secret: Vision of hell
2) Second secret: "The war is coming to an end. But if people do not cease to offend the Lord, another and more terrible one will break out during the next pontificate. When you see the night lit up by a great unknown light, know that it is a sign that God gives you of that punishment of the world by another war, famine and persecution of the Church and of the Holy Father."
3) "was reportedly opened by Pope John XXIII in 1960. What the message said has never been made public, but according to one account, the pope told some of those closest to him in the Vatican that what he read there almost made him faint with horror."

1923 – "The U.S. Supreme Court ruling Johnson v. McIntosh 8 Wheat 543 adopted the same principal of subjugation expressed in the InterCeteral Bull. This Papal Bull has been and continues to be, devastating to our religions, our cultures, and the survival of our populations."

1969 – German Arno Peters created and replaced Gerhardus Mercator (Latin name) or Gerhard Kremer's map.

CONCLUSION:

NOSTRODAMUS had many prophecies, which turned out true. It appears that one about an anti-Christ must still be reviewed. Reason: It was AFTER the prophecies were made and AFTER NOSTRODAMUS death when the world map was redrawn. The search for the older, detailed maps would surely pinpoint who the real ANTICHRIST was.

Could it be that the ancient maps that NOSTRODAMUS referred to are the same that may have been REMOVED/DESTROYED in the rape and plundering on Bagdad.

Iraq once held the treasures of 7,000 years old ANCIENT society, civilization, which can be questioned due to issues of conspiracies. Those who do wrong always fear the TRUTH.

Better the keepers of mankind's ANCIENT past, the Iraqi's, has rightfully assumed the treasures than bombed, destroyed, or stolen by Americans Pirates working under the demands of Cowboy/ King /Dictator/Bill Collector/Contract Holder Bush 'child of Germany who observes no law.' Such child was referred to by NOSTRODAMUS.

The Roman Catholic Church continues to play a large role with the Vatican's Papal Bulls authorities and the momentum of the Christian International Law through the United States (with business partner Great Britain) and Spain.

The Makaulas/Seers, Prophets, and Miracle Witnesses plays an important role in keeping the Roman Catholic Church and governments from running amok over time.

The Keepers of the Truth or Researchers also help to keep all in check. Aloha.

References: Steven Newcomb, Eric Poohina,Researchers; THE MESSAGE OF FATIMA by Cyril Charlie Mardindale; MYSTERIES OF THE UNEXPLAINED by Reader's Digest,...AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE by David Icke


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2008 - OBAMA on Jihad Watch (Frontpage Magazine):

November 19, 2008

Al-Qaeda top dog Zawahri calls Obama "house negro," says he has "chosen a stance of hostility to Islam and Muslims"

His hostility to Muslims shows in his support for Israel -- at least in Zawahri's world. "Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama in new audio message," by Maamoun Youssef and Lee Keath for AP, November 19 (thanks to all who sent this in):
...Al-Zawahri also called Obama—along with secretaries of state Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice—"house negroes."Speaking in Arabic, al-Zawahri uses the term "abeed al-beit," which literally translates as "house slaves." But al-Qaida supplied English subtitles of his speech that included the translation as "house negroes."...
Actually abeed means both "slave" and "black person," so Al-Qaeda's translation is just fine. Perhaps Adam Gadahn, if he is still alive, helped out al-Zawahri with the American idiomatic phrase.
The 11-minute 23-second video features the audio message by al-Zawahri, who appears only in a still image, along with other images, including one of Obama wearing a Jewish skullcap as he meets with Jewish leaders. In his speech, al-Zawahri refers to a Nov. 5 U.S. airstrike attack in Afghanistan, meaning the video was made after that date.Al-Zawahri said Obama's election has not changed American policies he said are aimed at oppressing Muslims and others.
"America has put on a new face, but its heart full of hate, mind drowning in greed, and spirit which spreads evil, murder, repression and despotism continue to be the same as always," the deputy of al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden said.
He said Obama's plan to shift troops to Afghanistan is doomed to failure, because Afghans will resist.
"Be aware that the dogs of Afghanistan have found the flesh of your soldiers to be delicious, so send thousands after thousands to them," he said.
Al-Zawahri did not threaten specific attacks, but warned Obama that he was "facing a Jihadi (holy war) awakening and renaissance which is shaking the pillars of the entire Islamic world; and this is the fact which you and your government and country refuse to recognize and pretend not to see."
He said Obama's victory showed Americans acknowledged that President George W. Bush's policies were a failure and that the result was an "admission of defeat in Iraq."
But Obama's professions of support for Israel during the election campaign "confirmed to the Ummah (Islamic world) that you have chosen a stance of hostility to Islam and Muslims," al-Zawahri said.

Posted by Robert at November 19, 2008
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AMERIKKKA still unpopular even though OBAMA'
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2011 -
Number Of Iraqis Slaughtered Since The U.S. Invaded Iraq "1,455,590"www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html
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Number of U.S. Military Personnel Sacrificed (Officially acknowledged) In America's War On Iraq:  4,770 icasualties.org/oif/
Number Of  International Occupation Force Troops Slaughtered In Afghanistan : 2,441
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Cost of War in Iraq & Afghanistan
Total Cost of Wars Since 2001
$1,188,539,516,316
http://www.costofwar.com/
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Bin Laden Killed In Pakistan
By JULIE PACE
Osama bin Laden, is dead, and the U.S. is in possession of his body, a person familiar with the situation said late Sunday.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28004.htm

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Why Was Bin Laden Buried At Sea So Quickly?
By: Glen Levy
One suspects that the U.S. would not have wanted there to be a physical grave site for fear of it turning into a place of worship for bin Laden's followers.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28005.htm

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Video: Inside Bin Laden's Drone-Proof Compound
By Spencer Ackerman and Noah Shachtman
Bloodstained mattresses and carpets. Discarded medication bottles. Clothing hanging in a dresser, never to see its owners again. That's what remains of the compound where Osama bin Laden met his end at the hands of a U.S. raiding team.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28007.htm

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Osama Bin Laden: Scary Terrorist or Boring Dinner Guest?
By Mike Whitney
The fact is, Bin Laden is just an inconsequential cog in the mighty machinery of state propaganda.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28008.htm

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Osama bin Laden's Second Death
By Paul Craig Roberts
If today were April 1 and not May 2, we could dismiss as an April fool's joke this morning's headline that Osama bin Laden was killed in a firefight in Pakistan.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28009.htm

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On Osama Bin Laden's Death
By Chris Hedges
These groups learned to speak the language we taught them. And our response was to speak in kind. The language of violence, the language of occupation-the occupation of the Middle East, the wars in Iraq and

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Justice or Vengeance?
By Phyllis Bennis
President Obama reasserted the American exceptionalism that has been a hallmark of his recent speeches, claiming that "America can do whatever we set our mind to."
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28011.htm

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_bin_laden

Obama: Al-Qaida head bin Laden dead


AP Photo
In this April 1998 file photo, Osama bin Laden is shown in Afghanistan. More photos »
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Barack Obama AP – President Barack Obama reads his statement to photographers after making a televised statement on the …
By JULIE PACE and MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Julie Pace And Matt Apuzzo, Associated Press36 mins ago
WASHINGTON – Osama bin Laden, the glowering mastermind behind the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks that murdered thousands of Americans, was killed in an operation led by the United States, President Barack Obama said Sunday.
"Justice has been done," said the president in a dramatic late-night announcement at the White House.
A small team of Americans killed bin Laden in a firefight Sunday at a compound in Pakistan, the president said, and took custody of his remains. Americaj officials said they were being handled in accordance with Islamic tradition.
A jubilant crowd gathered outside the White House as word spread of bin Laden's death after a global manhunt that lasted nearly a decade.
Former President George W. Bush, who was in office on the day of the attacks, issued a written statement hailing bin Laden's death as a momentous achievement. "The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done," he said.
Obama said he ordered the operation after receiving undisclosed intelligence information. Senior administration officials said the terrorist mastermind was found inside a custom-built compound with two security gates. They said it appeared to hvae been constructed to harbor one high-value target and that for undisclosed reasons, officials became clear the hideout was bin Laden's.
Officials also said they believe the death puts al-Qaida on a path of decline that will be difficult to reverse, but there was no word on the whereabouts of bin Laden's second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahri.
The stunning end to the world's most widely-watched manhunt came just months before the 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Centers and Pentagon, orchestrated by bin Laden's al-Qaida organization, that killed more than 3,000 people.
The attacks a decade ago seemed to come out of nowhere, even though al-Qaida had previously damaged American targets overseas.
The terrorists hijacked planes, flew one of them into one of Manhattan's Twin Towers — and, moments later, into the other one. Both buildings collapsed, trapping thousands inside and claiming the lives of firefighters and others who had rushed to help them.
A third plane slammed into the Pentagon, defacing the symbol of America's military night. A fourth crashed in rural Pennsylvania after passengers overpowered the hijackers and forced the craft from the air — before it could hit its intended target in Washington.
The attacks set off a chain of events that led the United States into wars in Afghanistan, and then Iraq, and America's entire intelligence apparatus was overhauled to counter the threat of more terror attacks at home.
A senior administration official says Obama gave the final order for U.S. officials to go after bin Laden on Friday. The official added that a small team found their quarry hiding in a large home in an affluent suburb of Islamabad. The raid occurred in the early morning hours Sunday.
Administration officials offered some details of the operation.
Based on statements given by U.S. detainees, intelligence officials have known for years that bin Laden trusted one al-Qaida courier in particular and they believed he might be living with him in hiding. In November, intelligence officials found out where he was living, a huge fortified compound in an affluent suburb of Islamabad. It was surrounded by walls as high as 18 feet high, topped with barbed wire. There were two security gates and no phone or Internet running into the house.
Intelligence officials believed the $1 million home was custom-built to harbor a major terrorist. CIA experts analyzed whether it could be anyone else, but time and again, they decided it was almost certainly bin Laden.
Three adult males were also killed in Sunday's raid, including one of bin Laden's sons, whom officials did not name. One of bin Laden's sons, Hamza, is a senior member of al-Qaida.
Obama spoke with Bush and former President Bill Clinton Sunday night to inform them of the developments.
Obama struck a less than boastful tone in his brief announcement, although he said the death of bin Laden was "the most significant achievement to date in our nation's effort to defeat al-Qaida.
"His death does not mark the end of our effort. There's no doubt that al-Qaida will continue to pursue attacks against us. We must and we will remain vigilant," he added.
Moments after he spoke, American officials cautioned that the events could lead to heightened threats against the United States.
Officials said the U.S. would ensure that bin Laden's body was handled in accordance with Islamic tradition.

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Summary

Americans Fail to be Christian people and have shown through the years that it is a barbaric Society created on the aggression, occupation by the castouts of the English Society, the prisoners, the criminal deviants who occupied Indian territory, Alaskan, and Hawaiian territory with little reflection of what they have done over time.

The Lynching of blacks/"niggers" were also made and not covered in the above, although most were innocent and victims of Mass Murderers, those who attended Church and prayed before they Lynched blacks for looking at their white women, for running away from their slave conditions, etc.

Another set of People of Color includes the Hawaiians/ aboriginal Hawaiians/ kanaka maoli/ Hawaiian Nationals who did no wrong but were categorized and called "Niggers" as well.  The issues of genocide, falsely claiming Hawaiians as having leprosy, identity theft to assume, claim properties, killing of known persons, etc. were not fully covered in the above.

The blacks and the Hawaiians/brownies were also used as entertainment to the American populations for amusement, etc.  which gave laughter to those who enjoy and celebrate death, etc.  (These issues may be covered in future articles.)

There are more Innocents being Plundered Upon and all have not been covered.  Everyone is watching along with God.

Americans Fail to heed the words of God "The Torah describes Moses and Miriam leading the ancient People Israel in a celebratory song after the tyrannical Pharaoh and his Army have been overwhelmed by the waters of the Red Sea. Later, the Rabbis gave a new overtone to the story: "The angels," they said, " began to dance and sing as well, but God rebuked them: "These also are the work of My hands. We must not rejoice at their deaths!' "

It will be a necessary move on the part of all young people in the U.S. to make corrections, because the old guys need to taught new ideas, because the old guys are working to create the death of us all through greed, warmongering, piracy(ies), criminal activities, contamination, introducing poison, toxins, disregarding peace, love, honesty, and good health for all.

If God's word is not heeded, then the words given to the Children of Fatima will hold true:

The children of Fatima witnessed Miracles and were given letters with secrets:
1) First secret: Vision of hell
2) Second secret: "The war is coming to an end. But if people do not cease to offend the Lord, another and more terrible one will break out during the next pontificate. When you see the night lit up by a great unknown light, know that it is a sign that God gives you of that punishment of the world by another war, famine and persecution of the Church and of the Holy Father."
3) "was reportedly opened by Pope John XXIII in 1960. What the message said has never been made public, but according to one account, the pope told some of those closest to him in the Vatican that what he read there almost made him faint with horror."


Take back your government young Americans.......dance for good reasons, not the evils expressed by the Wicked ones!

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Long Live Ko Hawaii Pae Aina......Kamehameha's, King Kalakaua's, Queen Liliuokalani's descendants/heirs, Kanaka Maoli, Aboriginal Hawaiians, Hawaiian Nationals!
aloha.
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Let Us Rejoice Over Peace, Not Death

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The Torah describes Moses and Miriam leading the ancient People Israel in a celebratory song after the tyrannical Pharaoh and his Army have been overwhelmed by the waters of the Red Sea. Later, the Rabbis gave a new overtone to the story: "The angels," they said, " began to dance and sing as well, but God rebuked them: "These also are the work of My hands. We must not rejoice at their deaths!' "
Notice the complexity of the teaching: Human beings go unrebuked when they celebrate the downfall and death of a tyrant; but the Rabbis are addressing our higher selves, trying to move us into a higher place. (The legend is certainly not aimed at "angels.") Similarly, we are taught that at the Passover Seder, when we recite the plagues that fell upon the Egyptians, we must drip out the wine from our cups as we mention each plague, lest we drink that wine to celebrate these disasters that befell our oppressors.
I myself would have been a lot happier to see Bin Laden arrested to stand trial, but assuming the report that he violently assisted arrest is true, I have no objection to his having been killed. Yet I was dismayed by the quasi-sports-victory tone of the celebrations that arose around the country -- chanting "U-S-A, U-S-A," for instance. What I myself felt was more like "Sad necessity" -- and I would have preferred a mournful remembrance of the innocent dead of the Twin Towers and of Iraq and Afghanistan -- a thoughtful reexamination of how easy it is to turn abominable violence against us into a justification for indiscriminate violence by us.
Can we now say, "Enough, enough!" -- refuse to drink the intoxicating triumphalist wine of celebration, and turn our attention and commitment to end these wars that take on a deadly "life" of their own?
With blessings of shalom, salaam, peace.




 
Medea Benjamin and CODEPINK activists demonstrated with Alice Walker outside the White House this morning, calling for an end to the occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq and an end to drone attacks. 




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For us, the death of Osama Bin Laden is a time of profound reflection. With his death, we remember and mourn all the lives lost on September 11. We remember and mourn all the lives lost in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan. We remember and mourn the deaths of our soldiers. And we say, as we have been saying for the past nine years, “Enough.”


As an organization led by women, our hearts go out to all the women who are living with the ravages of war and violence. And we say, “Enough.”



As lovers of peace, we call on our leaders to let the death of this mass murderer move us to a deep reexamination. How have we have allowed the unspeakable violence against us turn into unspeakable violence by us? Invading Iraq on the basis of lies and leaving that proud nation in ruins. Torturing prisoners in Abu Ghraib. Imprisoning people without trial in Guantanamo. Bombing wedding parties in Kandahar. Unleashing drone attacks on Pakistani villagers. Destroying ecosystems with depleted uranium. It is time we say, “Enough.”

Let us give meaning to the death of Osama Bin Laden by putting an end to the violence. Sign our petition to President Obama: Enough -- Let the Peace Begin.



Our military, and our federal budget, must focus on rebuilding at home, not making new enemies abroad. Let us not sink into a false sense of triumphalism in the wake of Bin Laden’s passing. His death will only have meaning if it marks the beginning of the end of this ruthless cycle of violence.
As Julia Ward Howe proclaimed in her Mother's Day Proclamation, "Disarm! Disarm! The sword of murder is not the balance of justice." Join us in commemorating a Mother's Day of Peace
by holding a vigil to mourn those killed in the illegal and immoral wars and drone attacks or ask your mayor to sign
our Bring Our War $$ Home resolution.  Let the peace begin,
Ali, Alli, C.J., Chelsea, Dara, Farida, Gayle, Janet, Jean, Jodie, Kristen, Medea, Nancy K, Nancy M, Rae, Sanaa, Shaden, and Tighe
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THE WISDOM FUND: News & Views
March 25, 2010
The Wisdom Fund

Staging bin Laden's 'Death'


by Enver Masud

It appears that we are being primed for the "death" of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.
Attorney General Eric Holder told
a House panel this month that bin Laden "will never appear in an American courtroom." Others
who have examined the evidence, and the "bin Laden tapes," have concluded that bin Laden is dead. US Defense Secretary Robert Gates admitted
that the US has had no reliable information on the whereabouts of Osama Bin Laden in years. But the US needs a neat ending to its war on Afghanistan.
Staging
bin Laden's death will be seen as a fitting end to this genocidal war for the control
of energy resources. Of course it will have to be done so that visual identification is not possible. We suspect that when bin Laden is "killed," we'll just have to trust the folks that lied us into war to confirm they got him.
---
"What Really Happened on September 11, 2001

," 2002-2010 Robert Fisk, "Saddam Statue Scene Staged
," Independent, April 11, 2003 John Kampfner, "Saving Private Lynch story 'flawed'
," BBC News, May 15, 2003 Eric Margolis, "Saddam Captured: The Man Who Knew Too Much
," Toronto Sun, December 21, 2003 Enver Masud, "Bin Laden Not Wanted for 9/11
," The Wisdom Fund, June 8, 2006
"9/11 Unveiled" leads the reader to the inescapable conclusion: The 9/11 Commission Report is fatally flawed. Its conclusions regarding the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and Flight 93 are false. With the Commission's staff barely in place, a detailed outline - complete with "chapter headings, subheadings, and sub-subheadings" of The 9/11 Commission Report, had been prepared. The Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission, a Commission vigorously opposed by the White House, also drafted the Bush administration's pre-emptive war doctrine. Bin Laden, the rationale for the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, was not wanted for 9/11.--Enver Masud, "9/ 11 Unveiled
," The Wisdom Fund (September 11, 2008)
Griffin . . . examines purported messages from bin Laden since 2001 and finds little evidence that these in fact have come from bin Laden himself.--David Ray Griffin, "Osama Bin Laden: Dead or Alive
?," Olive Branch Press (May 20, 2009) [Leon Panetta told ABC television . . . Intelligence on Bin Laden "almost goes back, you know, to the early 2000s... Since then, it's been very difficult to get any intelligence on his exact location".--"No intelligence on Bin Laden, US says
," Independent, June 28, 2010] [Angelo M. Codevilla, who teaches international relations at Boston University, is a former U.S. intelligence officer who studied Soviet disinformation techniques during the Cold War. He says a close examination of all the alleged bin Laden tapes, including the videos, have convinced him that Elvis Presley is more alive than Osama bin Laden. . . .
The last credible intercepts of bin Laden's voice were made by overhead satellites in early December 2001 as he was escaping through the Tora Bora mountain range . . .
Bin Laden was suffering from a kidney ailment, and some experts say he died Dec. 13, 2001, four days after his escape from Tora Bora.--Arnaud de Borchgrave, "Man or myth argument is alive and well online
," Washington Times, July 26, 2010] [The leaked documents also claim that Osama bin Laden, who was reported dead three years ago by the late Pakistan candidate Benazir Bhutto on BBC, was still alive, conveniently keeping the myth alive for the Obama Administration War on Terror at a point when most Americans had forgotten the original reason the Bush Administration allegedly invaded Afghanistan to pursue the Saudi Bin Laden for the 9/11 attacks.
. . . a closer examination of the public position of Assange on one of the most controversial issues of recent decades, the forces behind the September 11, 2001, attacks on the Pentagon and World Trade Center shows him to be curiously establishment.--F. William Engdahl, "Something stinks about Wikileaks
," vheadline.com
, August 11, 2010] Maidhc O Cathail, "Bin Laden is Dead; Long Live 'Bin Laden'
," maidhcocathail.wordpress.com
, August 16, 2010 "Muslims Didn't Do It
," The Wisdom Fund, September 11, 2010 "Osama Bin Laden Dead
," whitehouse.gov
, May 2, 2011 back button
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Reponse to topic written by vincent

hi,

'The United States sent forces to the Middle East for two reasons: to support the principle that stronger powers must not swallow up weaker neighbors; and to prevent a large fraction of the world's oil reserves from coming under the control of a brutal, aggressive and unpredictable tyrant.....Oil is a uniquely valuable resource, one that makes the Persian Gulf the only part of the Third World where Western interests are sizable enought to justify a large war.'

Reference: FOREIGN AFFAIRS - The Road to War - America and the World 1990/91 volume 70 no. 1 by the Council on Foreign Relations, Inc. (1991)

No WMD Found.

1990 - 'Apr. 2. Iraqi President Saddam Hussein announces that Iraq possesses advanced chemical weapons and threatens to destroy half of Israel if it launches preemptive strike against Iraqi weapons facilities.'

Am looking for the 13 names from the South in the U.S. who are the real players in the claims by the U.S. when they claimed interest.

you see, the U.S. backs their 'citizens lives and properties'....am curious as to the 13 businessmen and their people who began the oil investments even though they had no connections to oil at the beginning.....

'Persian Oil. The first oil discovered in the Middle East ws in Persia. A private company had drilled several dry holes, and headquarters had actually sent a telegram to stop drilling when the crew hit oil on May 16, 1908. The company was supported by the British government, which needed a reliable supply of oil because the British Navy was converting to oil. Earlier steamships burned coal, but in 1912, the British built the first oil-fueled battleship. In 1914, the British government bought the Anglo-Persian Oil company. By 1919, the British had plans to make Persia a protectorate, but the Persian government refused to ratify the agreement.'

Information found has to do with the Standard Oil Company, the Morgan bankers, the United States and the British governments.....Research incomplete.

Rather thank being funny, it appears that the U.S. has become a LAWLESS Society due to the nuclear weaponry, war by the rules ends because now, there are NO RULES.

Reference: WAR GAMES by Thomas B. Allen (1987) Berkeley Books (interesting book based on declassified government secrets,etc.)

see other info at website: http://myweb.ecomplanet.com/GORA8037

Reference: OF MANY TIMES AND CULTURES by Marvin Scott (1993), THE MASTERS OF CAPITAL (1919) by John Moody, Yale University

aloha.

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The following was placed on the 911pi.forum in March 2003 by same:

Topic: The 911 Disaster Appears to be the 'PROVOCATION' needed since 1997
surfchic
Investigator posted #AM March 13, 2003 07:52 AM
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Background: 'The total amount of indebtedness, including current indebtedness, exceeds $100 trillion in U.S. equivalent, right now, which is several times greater than the current income of the entire world! So, therefore all present financial systems are inherently bankrupt, together with the central banking systems attached to them, and there's no way that you can revive national economy without putting the entire financial system through a form of bankruptcy reorganization...' These statements were due to a monetary system crisis in 1997.

'Netanyahu's NUCLEAR CHICKEN GAME -

EIR: I've been told that since you've been in Europe, you've been studying the prospects for a near-term nuclear Armageddon in the Middle East.

Lydon Larouche: Ye. Now, we're looking at a situation in which it is expected that, under British direction, the present virtual dictator of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, will launch a nuclear-Armageddon scenario for the Middle East, which will have in some respects, will resemble the 1962 Missile Crisis of the Soviet Union and the United States.

We are at a point, with the international support--which Netanyahu's faction has, the faction which killed Rabin--at which Netanyahu is likely to go into what is sometimes called a 'Chicken Game' scenario, using nuclear weapons as a threat, as a cover for military operations by Israel against its neighbors, possibly extending as far as Iraq and Iran, in particular.

ALL THAT IS NEEDED AT THIS TIME, ESSENTIALLY, TO GET THAT GOING, IS A PROVOCATION, WHICH CAN BE EASILY SUPPLIED, THAT IS, IF CERTAIN AGENCIES SUPPLY A CONVENIENT TERRORIST ATTACK AGAINST A COUPLE POINTS IN ISRAEL, IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME ---SUPPOSE ONE OF THESE ATTACKS IS ATTRIBUTED TO HEZBOLLAH, WHICH IN THE ISRAELI LEXICON IS GENERALLY BLAMED ON IRAN--THAT MEANS THAT ISRAEL WILL GO INTO A REVENGE IMPULSE AGAINS IRAN. ONCE THAT'S DONE, EVEN THE ISRAELI POPULATION WHICH IS OPPOSED TO NETANYAHU AND HIS FASCISTIC METHODS, WILL TEND TO RALLY IN THE NAME OF ISRAELI PATRIOTISM, BEHIND A NUCLEAR-THREAT SCENARIO.

THIS IS BEING RUN FROM GREAT BRITAIN. We have insight on that, partly published, partly otherwise. We have insight on it from Israel itself. The unfortunate part about this, my sconcern is that, although we should be able to control this, the tactics...Oh, we'll have to get back to this. (commercial break)

EIR: We're on the phone with Lyndon LaRouche, who was describing, before the commercial brea, the near-term prospects for a nuclear ARMAGEDDON IN THE MIDDLE EAST, unleashed by Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister.'

SUMMARY

Be aware that the United States wrongfully assisted in dethroning Queen Liliuokalani in Hawaii, was in a DEPRESSION at the time and wrongfully ASSUMED/PIRATED the incomes, taxes, rents/leases, shipping duties, the Kingdom of Hawaii's Treasury with $179,000 +, millions of dollars of loans due from Mason, banker, investor PIRATE OF THE PACIFIC Charles Reed Bishop and Friends.

The United States 'went 'Bankrupt' in 1933 and was declared so by President Roosevelt by Executive Orders 6073, 6102, 6111 and Executive Order 6260.

August 15, 1971, the U.S. monetary system COLLAPSED.

January 19, 1976: Marjorie S. Holt 'noted for the record, a second 'Declaration of INTERdependence' and clearly identified the U.N. as a 'Communist' organization, and that they were seeking both production and monetary control over the Union and the People through International Organizations promoting the 'One World Order' (See: 8 U.S.C.A. 1101 (40) U.S.C.A. 781 & 783).

Senate Report 93-549 included the fact that Congress allowed 470 provisions of Federal law be accomodated to the President.

In 1980, President James Carter period, he and the Senate 'confirmed another 'Constitution', namely, the 'Constitution of the United Nations Industrial Development Organization', found at Senate, Treaty Document No. 97-19, 97th Congress, 1st session. The issue of all Americans being DOCUMENTED SLAVES is included.

Reference: THE UNITED STATES IS BANKRUPT NOW - Documented Evidence Re: Senate Report No. 93-549, etc. by John B. Nelson December 26, 1991
(Legal Scholar)

OBSERVATIONS

The U.S. became an arm of the Vatican - Rome through the Christian International Laws and appears to have assumed SPAIN's position.

A Court case in 1923 documents the fact.

(Reference: Steven Newcomb, Shawnee/Lenape, American Indian legal scholar)

The U.S.BREACHED THE LAW OF NATIONS maintained Hawaii's Queen Liliuokalani.

The U.S. with Great Britain etals formed the League of Nations after Hawaii's Queen died in 1917.

THE CFR was formed with U.S. GREAT BRITAIN and Bankers elite.....the purpose = a new entity called the UNITED NATIONS moving to ONE WORLD ORDER.

The U.S. maneuvered, connived, convoluted issues and works INTERDEPENDENTLY with the UNITED NATIONS as documented in the article by John B. Nelson in 1991.

Due to the 470 resolutions allowed by the U.S. Congress, the Second Constitution of the U.S. set in place, the U.S. President with the opportunity to command armies without Congressional approval, it appears that the UNITED NATIONS has been set in place to PLUNDER upon all INNOCENT countries through the manipulations of legalese, a bankrupt monetary system that uses and abuses its citizenry.

Consequently, Bush is in a position of FRAUD, TREASON and CONSPIRACIES against U.S. Citizens, against all countries excepting Great Britain who has most of its funds directed towards the BUSINESS OF WARS...

Katie Couric of NBC (organization that the BUSH family is affiliated with, under the umbrella of General Electric Co. a company that REQUIRES OIL) recently interviewed a Prince from the Middle East and said 'isn't that BARBARIC'....the term used in the Papal BULLS of 1493 validating the plundering upon 'barbarous countries' by the United States (as documented in the 1923 Supreme Court Case). It was right that the Prince DID NOT CONFIRM the term barbaric because that gave the U.S. a little harder time to accomodate PLUNDERING UPON INNOCENTS.

The UNITED NATIONS must disband and regroup under the LAW of NATIONS respect for all countries, etc. and the POPE in the Vatican needs to NULL and VOID the PAPAL BULLS of 1493.

All COUNTRIES NEED TO OPPOSE WAR, observe the maneuvers/devious issues surrounding the PLANNED 911 Disaster, and finally all the United States citizens, mostly IGNORANT, UNKNOWING, and SHEEPLIKE must try the criminal deviants, the United States President Bush and Friends for TREASON against the people, etc.........aloha, from one of Kamehameha's descendants, Amelia Kuulei Gora, a Royal Person, not subject to the laws, researcher of 16+ years history, 15 years genealogy, legal researcher, writer/author/ publiher of 21 Hawaiian history, genealogy, children's books, Representative of the Hawaiian Genealogy Society maintaining the claims of the Kamehameha descendants and affiliated with the Kingdom of Hawaii (impaired status) maintaining Neutral.

4/21/2003 update:

Notice how MASON member Bush/U.S. President Bush is now targeting Syria, Iran, etc. etc. see today's headlines noted on this sites news...

aloha...
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